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		<title>By: Jim Smith</title>
		<link>http://jenconsalvo.com/2008/09/tc50-personal-favs/comment-page-1/#comment-108</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;perhaps more entrants in the category will be good for everyone&quot;

NOT SO!   Nobody will enter their bird lists into both eBird and Birdpost consistently.

So since Birdpost isn&#039;t capable of producing DATA that is of value to researchers, it cannot avoid harming eBird, which is a REAL citizen-science project that helps bird conservation.

The only way that Birdpost could avoid harming eBird and other REAL citizen-science projects is if they reinvent themselves and address the issue of their data quality + interoperability.  They are way too open for misidentifications, fabrications, &quot;wishful thinking&quot; sightings and other spurious data making its way into their database.

No valid research will come of Birdpost&#039;s data as it currently exists.

QED.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;perhaps more entrants in the category will be good for everyone&#8221;</p>
<p>NOT SO!   Nobody will enter their bird lists into both eBird and Birdpost consistently.</p>
<p>So since Birdpost isn&#8217;t capable of producing DATA that is of value to researchers, it cannot avoid harming eBird, which is a REAL citizen-science project that helps bird conservation.</p>
<p>The only way that Birdpost could avoid harming eBird and other REAL citizen-science projects is if they reinvent themselves and address the issue of their data quality + interoperability.  They are way too open for misidentifications, fabrications, &#8220;wishful thinking&#8221; sightings and other spurious data making its way into their database.</p>
<p>No valid research will come of Birdpost&#8217;s data as it currently exists.</p>
<p>QED.</p>
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		<title>By: last week&#8217;s blurrrrr&#8230; &#171; calmwater</title>
		<link>http://jenconsalvo.com/2008/09/tc50-personal-favs/comment-page-1/#comment-107</link>
		<dc:creator>last week&#8217;s blurrrrr&#8230; &#171; calmwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#124; Tags: chinatown, sanfrancisco, TC50, Techcrunch50 &#124;   last week&#8217;s trip to san francisco for techcrunch50 was hectic but so much fun - i wish it were starting all over again. i think the biggest surprise [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] | Tags: chinatown, sanfrancisco, TC50, Techcrunch50 |   last week&#8217;s trip to san francisco for techcrunch50 was hectic but so much fun &#8211; i wish it were starting all over again. i think the biggest surprise [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
		<link>http://jenconsalvo.com/2008/09/tc50-personal-favs/comment-page-1/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 03:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Viva la ebird!</description>
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		<title>By: jc</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the detailed comment jim! i hadn&#039;t heard of ebirds before - very interesting. perhaps more entrants in the category will be good for everyone as it will help raise awareness of the options and possibilities. cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the detailed comment jim! i hadn&#8217;t heard of ebirds before &#8211; very interesting. perhaps more entrants in the category will be good for everyone as it will help raise awareness of the options and possibilities. cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Smith</title>
		<link>http://jenconsalvo.com/2008/09/tc50-personal-favs/comment-page-1/#comment-104</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Birdpost is a blatant rip-off of the NONPROFIT eBird project that has been around for years.

Much of the Birdpost application seems to be a repackaging of some of eBird&#039;s new features like Google Mapping, Notable Birds Gadget, etc.

They obviously used existing eBird features as the kernel, added a few social networking &#039;bells and whistles&#039; (which birders won&#039;t care about) and voila.

And unlike eBird, Birdpost is of zero value to bird researchers and conservationists, since Birdpost data is very poorly screened for misidentifications, spurious reports and &quot;nut job&quot; birders compared to eBird and other real citizen-science projects.

Birdpost is posing as &quot;citizen science&quot; when it is nothing of the sort!  No reputable ornithologist would go near it as a data source / research tool!

I urge birders to use eBird instead - after all, it not only lets you record, track, map, search, alerts, etc. - but it also helps conserve the birds we care about.

Birdpost is a for-profit ripoff of an existing nonprofit product.

For Shame!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Birdpost is a blatant rip-off of the NONPROFIT eBird project that has been around for years.</p>
<p>Much of the Birdpost application seems to be a repackaging of some of eBird&#8217;s new features like Google Mapping, Notable Birds Gadget, etc.</p>
<p>They obviously used existing eBird features as the kernel, added a few social networking &#8216;bells and whistles&#8217; (which birders won&#8217;t care about) and voila.</p>
<p>And unlike eBird, Birdpost is of zero value to bird researchers and conservationists, since Birdpost data is very poorly screened for misidentifications, spurious reports and &#8220;nut job&#8221; birders compared to eBird and other real citizen-science projects.</p>
<p>Birdpost is posing as &#8220;citizen science&#8221; when it is nothing of the sort!  No reputable ornithologist would go near it as a data source / research tool!</p>
<p>I urge birders to use eBird instead &#8211; after all, it not only lets you record, track, map, search, alerts, etc. &#8211; but it also helps conserve the birds we care about.</p>
<p>Birdpost is a for-profit ripoff of an existing nonprofit product.</p>
<p>For Shame!</p>
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